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Well I think it's a code (and it says "code" on the screen: "Launch Authorization Code Required").

I have now met this screen perhaps 3-4 times. First time I failed it enough times that I was suspected being a bot and my account was blocked. After that I have failed it even more times, but usually I have gotten it right with practise. I do feel that verification process is counter-intuative on some cases. And that is the reason why I think there should be a way to ask for an another verification if you don't see the solution to the one you have been given right away. Even ReCaptcha has this option so as much as people hate it I think it has done that part right.

Being stuck with a code that you cannot see the solution of is just frustrating. And for one I don't think the plan was ever to prevent humans from playing the game.

As for developers can give some feedback from my experience.

1) Because of Launch Verification I certainly now launch less than before. I launch less because of the time I have been blocked by the verification screen. Beside that I have only little confidence that I can make it right which means that in case I am in a hurry I usually don't even try the code unless I have a good amount of time think about it. Having my account blocked before because of failed attemps is not helping. Even though it'd not be true, I still think that failing the code will get my account blocked. So not trying has became my solution to not having to contact Support again because of this matter.

2) I also launch less because of I fear that I would see the Launch Verification screen. By not lauching I have found solution to play the game. I can still harvest and invest to the ordinance just fine which has become my main way to play. A very good thing is that you can harvest even when you're blocked by the Code Verification Screen.

Unfortunately I cannot really offer any good solutions to this matter. Even if you'd offer a way to ask for an another Code Verification, I think it wouldn't change the bad experience that I've had with this issue so far. And apparently QONQR won't change into a time without Launch Verifications so that'd be out of question.

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I see the 'code' every day often more than once and I've never had an issue with getting it correct.

I really cant see how it can be gotten wrong as often as that.

The symbols are not always, even rarely, the same way up or in the same format. If you just match the closest symbol in a left to right order it will always work.

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I see the 'code' every day often more than once and I've never had an issue with getting it correct.

I really cant see how it can be gotten wrong as often as that.

The symbols are not always, even rarely, the same way up or in the same format. If you just match the closest symbol in a left to right order it will always work.

Well it's been stated here already (I think), but it's very easy to make a mistake here when..

1) You have never seen anything like that before.

2) There are no instructions on how to use it.

3) Being confused.

Also I can see that some people probably have no problem with those things. I can also imagine that some people have more. People are different with different kind of cultural back grounds and educations etc. Some things that are very intuitive to some are complete opposites to others. As I am not confident when entering the code I can never tell if the code is correct (until I see the outcome).

It makes me think of those special pictures that some people can easily see and some cannot see anything even when they are told how they work.

And I've seen pairs of code where there are 2 symbols that I feel would go either way. That is how I know it's not always entirely clear what the code is. Of course in reality it means you would need just to enter the code to find out which one is correct and then use the other solution if it fails, but when I feel that entering the code incorrectly leads for account being blocked, I wouldn't want that I'd have to check the code in order to know if it's correct or not.

Also..

From the blog post etc. I've learned that it should be impossible for anyone to see the code more than perhaps once in 3 days. Does this have been changed or have this been changed as you claim to have seen this "every day often more than once"?

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You can fail the code a couple of times without getting blocked. Also, when I was cubing the other day, I got the "code" about 4-5 times in 1 day. You are given a reasonable amount of time to enter the code, take your time and think it through

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It is easy if you take your time to enter the code correct and the more you see it the easier it gets

On most days I see the code 3 times per 24 hours without cubes and this is reasonable but sometimes in poor data areas it dose not always load all the images and often can be waiting for images to load to be able to enter the code this is the only problem I have experianced I have to admit it took a while with the symbols to ge some right maybe it could be time for the devs to add other languages to the codes and get us all thinking

Remember you can always use the portal to enter your code the bigger the immages the easier it is to see which is which especially with the numbers in circles and smilies

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Remember you can always use the portal to enter your code the bigger the immages the easier it is to see which is which especially with the numbers in circles and smilies

I've seen an option to enter the code using the Portal. I have never though of it being any improvement as the code is still the same.

But I must ask: There are numbers in the circles? I thougth that you have to match circles with other circles. That's what I've always done.

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Don't match the shape match the symbol within.

This might be the very reason why I have failed it so many times (and also why I have had a feeling that the symbols are sometimes inconsistent and why I'd want instructions). I have to keep my eye out for the circles. Thank you.

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These are the types of puzzles one finds in the easy section of an IQ test. An IQ test is the best known method for determining how smart a person is. Consistently flunking the easy section of an IQ test should be kept secret.

An IQ test is a method determining how smart a person is. I wouldn't say it's the best one. And the tests come with instructions on how to fill them in. Without filling instructions the tests are meaningless.

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An IQ test is a method determining how smart a person is. I wouldn't say it's the best one. And the tests come with instructions on how to fill them in. Without filling instructions the tests are meaningless.

I'm not trying to be mean here, but the picture below is literally what the launch verification design was based on. This is a puzzle given to kids before they are able to speak or even understand direction. It's literally as self-explanatory as putting the square block in the square hole. It shouldn't even be slightly confusing - it should be common sense...

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I can easily see that this is the inspiration behind the Launch Verification. I also got the same word from the Support.

But it hardly means they are the same thing.

First of all when trying the shapes a child will get immediate feedback whether the solution is correct or not. If the task was to find the correct symbol for one picture it would represent this quite accurately. If you want to give this kind of game to a child to accurately represent the Launch Verification it should be done so that children is given 4 pictures of shapes and then 4 other pictures. After they have selected an order for them, they are told it's either correct or incorrect and no explanation on what was the problem.

I can easily see many children failing that test.

And hardly any child has been given this test without any instructions. The usual method is that an adult shows first which part goes to what hole and then we see if the child can figure it out on his own. In Launch Verification no instruction is ever given. Nor is there any help section to look for.

And thirdly, if a child cannot pass this game in a long time or makes too many mistakes while trying to guess his way out, it doesn't end up blocking their account. In my case I was blocked the first time I tried to solve it. And I think I made a good effort having no instructions on what to do.

I am not against Launch Verification here. If it's needed then I am fine with it. But I am against for not having any instructions on how to use it. The game has a very well made FAQ section. Why isn't there any mention of this Launch Verification? The game itself prompts help screen for every new stuff that you click on. So why not have a help screen to tell people what to do when they see it the first time?

And I do think that having to coup with Launch Verification when launching less than 100 times per day is hardly something that will prevent people from using launching bots. It'll more likely make genuine people who play the game not to do so anymore (if it has any effect at all).

EDIT: I checked the in-game help and now it seems there is section for launch verification. I don't know if it's because of these messages or an unrelated matter, but I think it's a major improvement. I still think that somewhere should be a section where you could check the symbols that exist and found out what their correct solutions are. Or at least have some more detailed instructions. For instant I had no idea that you're supposed match symbol inside a circle (which I haven't been able to confirm, but I will test this if I ever see that kind of symbol again). Previously I was being told to match a shape with similar shape.

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Or simply make the symbols bigger so I don't need to wear glasses just to play a phone game.

^^

This. Very good idea!

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EDIT: I still think that somewhere should be a section where you could check the symbols that exist and found out what their correct solutions are. Or at least have some more detailed instructions. For instant I had no idea that you're supposed match symbol inside a circle (which I haven't been able to confirm, but I will test this if I ever see that kind of symbol again). Previously I was being told to match a shape with similar shape.

I don't quite think you understand the point of the sequence. Giving you the database with symbols + solutions would make it possible for a bot/program to learn all the symbols and answers and bypass this very tool. The point of the entire thing is to have a human THINK where a bot cannot.

Again, not trying to be mean here, but as I said originally, this test is given before children can talk/comprehend direction. Sure, an adult can show them the first couple times, but this is a BABY, you are a fully developed adult. And you're right, they don't ban children from life for failing this test, but the kid probably isn't going to be the next Einstein...

Even if the symbols aren't a 100% match, I don't get what is so difficult. Last night I literally had a code pop up where 2/4 of the symbols were completely missing. Half of the information was completely missing and it took me... 2 tries. 2! I've never had a formal explanation, no one has ever "showed me how" or given me the solutions.

Just as you call for instructions, I call for them to be left out. They're completely unnecessary for something so easy to figure out/learn after 1 interaction. Agree to disagree, but **** if putting instructions on something so simplistic delays the release of blue anymore.

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Well perhaps my post was a little off.

It is not probably a good idea to create a full database that has all the symbols, but at least have some instructions with the symbols in them. Now there is the video (that is shown here). It's better than nothing I guess.

Now that there actually are instructions in the game about it, I think the situation is better.

And when I now have seen the Launch Verification I don't fail it so often anymore. But I wanted to write a post here to show people that you can actually fail the test and still be human. Especially when seeing it the first time and being confused.

And not contacting Support for 3 days when seeing something like this is to me a very natural thing. To me it seems it shouldn't be a reason to block someones account.

Fortunately Support was really helpful with this. After contacting them I think my account was back online in less than 24 hours. So 10 points to the people working in Support for that.

I still have a bad experience which means that when I see the screen I won't try it if I'm any busy. I will quit launching for that day until I have to think it through. Perhaps I wouldn't need it, but I don't want to make it wrong again (which earlier let my account being blocked). So in my experience Launch Verification is the reason I now launch less than before. I am not sure if I'm the only one, but that is also something I wanted to write about (to let more people know how the feature affects to the game).

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